tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post1032416479961884953..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: Guilt and Shame and Jet lagElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-69942268062901504152012-03-26T17:14:13.954-04:002012-03-26T17:14:13.954-04:00Kit - Arrange for him to come to your area and do ...Kit - Arrange for him to come to your area and do his presentation. I promise you not only won't be disappointed, you'll have energized a whole group of people. He's FABULOUS.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-50949510057378924402012-03-26T13:22:30.120-04:002012-03-26T13:22:30.120-04:00Thanks for a first-hand account of Patrick's s...Thanks for a first-hand account of Patrick's seminar. I'm reading his new book now and finding liberation there.Kittredge Cherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02617858676733169316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-8836955447377252162012-03-25T23:08:31.184-04:002012-03-25T23:08:31.184-04:00Thanks, Whitecat.Thanks, Whitecat.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-9702608638015802092012-03-25T23:08:13.481-04:002012-03-25T23:08:13.481-04:00Susankay - Of course. Damn jet lag.Susankay - Of course. Damn jet lag.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-91913151789205305132012-03-25T18:56:58.444-04:002012-03-25T18:56:58.444-04:00Elizabeth, I am so glad that you are safely home. ...Elizabeth, I am so glad that you are safely home. I cannot tell you how good it was to read your Tales of Thailand! They were a special blessing.whiteycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04278420345601368200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-29558233458540864092012-03-25T16:49:34.072-04:002012-03-25T16:49:34.072-04:00Elizabeth -- thank you again for another post. I ...Elizabeth -- thank you again for another post. I do hope you plan to take in Macchu Pichu on your way BACK from Nepal etc -- it being in South America and all.susankayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513759507628166408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-63361625195521002132012-03-25T14:25:10.404-04:002012-03-25T14:25:10.404-04:00David - I couldn't agree with you more. I thin...David - I couldn't agree with you more. I think our particular gift to the church has been to think about some of the words we use so glibly - guilt, shame, pride, blessing, marriage - and recapture their original meaning.<br /><br />Thanks, David.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-51150173830717095802012-03-25T12:01:40.205-04:002012-03-25T12:01:40.205-04:00'The language may trip you up, but I think we ...'The language may trip you up, but I think we progressives are, in a way, just learning to rethink and talk about sin and grace in non-traditional ways, so of course our language is going to be non-traditional.'<br /><br />Elizabeth, it has been my sense for some time that this is essentially core to the vocation and witness of LGBT folk within faith communities at this time: to pry open the death-grip of partirarchal shame and guilt, so that Ruach might finally get us living into the living Body of Christ.<br /><br />If we LGBT folk, with all the shame/guilt/violence/misogyny and homophobia can step forward with love and gratitude for the gifts of the living Body of Christ, then there literally has to be room for everyone at the table:in the Kingdom.<br /><br />In a way particular to these muddled times within the Church we are the most vivid embodiment of that 'Love beyond our wildest imagining'; of Tutu's great 'ALL'David@Montrealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08447479118332347163noreply@blogger.com