tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post1158693107688283954..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: The Doctor Is In The HouseElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-28793818795086448302008-05-09T07:59:00.000-04:002008-05-09T07:59:00.000-04:00Okay, CR, just what the heck have you been smoking...Okay, CR, just what the heck have you been smoking?Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-28113814070611782172008-05-08T22:26:00.000-04:002008-05-08T22:26:00.000-04:00oh thank you Elizabeth!!!Our Primate (=Presiding B...oh thank you Elizabeth!!!<BR/>Our Primate (=Presiding Bishop, we can take the banana jokes as read, 'kay?)is coming here to Most Holy & Undivided on Sunday, both services. The early service folk are cooking a nice b'fast for him, and them, between the services. I have sworn them to a BLOOD OATH that they will make pleasant and friendly conversation and ask No Hard Questions. No fairs saying, "What price the Southern Cone eh" just as the man gets a mouthful of egg.<BR/>But...even St. Paul descended to it -- "Person without any brain" he said, right there in 1 Corinthians 15.Crimson Ramblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13020190454645032359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-76790663222822006102008-05-07T10:58:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:58:00.000-04:00Preach it doctor! AMEN!FWIWjimBJim's ThoughtsPreach it doctor! AMEN!<BR/><BR/>FWIW<BR/>jimB<BR/><A HREF="http://essaysbyjim.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Jim's Thoughts</A>JimBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312606954135884910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-40779852003862374522008-05-07T10:47:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:47:00.000-04:00John Vanderstar is one of the really sound minds o...John Vanderstar is one of the really sound minds of the Episcopal Church. Having heard him speak at Diocesan Convention on many occasions while I was in El Camino Real, I am grateful for his wisdom. May we all take a grain of his wisdom as our own. Thanks for the post.Muthah+https://www.blogger.com/profile/10589837671378205837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-8009888729690258392008-05-06T16:55:00.000-04:002008-05-06T16:55:00.000-04:00I can recall a number of occasions at diocesan co...I can recall a number of occasions at diocesan conventions when I stood to oppose a measure that sought to grant some degree of acceptance to same-sex relationships as being considered within the bounds of Christian thought. I did so as calmly and rationally as I could manage.<BR/><BR/>The reaction from those who supported these measures was not only to oppose me and others who held the same opinion, but to do so in an angry and hostile manner. It was not unusual for some parliamentary device to be used to stifle debate, when such devices were not often used regarding other measures. Calm reason was not met with equally calm reason, but with hostility, sometimes even rage.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes at other progressive blogs (seldom this one), comments that I post are met with a long-distance diagnosis of mental instability and threats of retribution.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the sense of "they are all messed up" comes to those on both sides. After all, my position is reasonable, and anyone who differs must be ignorant or warped...<BR/><BR/>We are all starting from differing perspectives -- indeed, from different worldviews. It is no wonder we are clashing. We have a common vocabulary in the words of the Christian creeds and prayers, but a differing starting point as to what we believe is true about how we know the things of God.Hiramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00845924600039905182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-68148210494428409242008-05-06T13:24:00.000-04:002008-05-06T13:24:00.000-04:00Amen! At the same time, I must say mea culpa, for...Amen! At the same time, I must say <I>mea culpa</I>, for I have done that very thing. It's a timely reminder to me to address the substance of what a person says, rather than descend to the level of "hostile jeering". Thanks to Dr. Gritter and to you, too, Elizabeth.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-43671840477631878862008-05-06T10:03:00.000-04:002008-05-06T10:03:00.000-04:00Amen! Though it is unlikely to reduce the behavio...Amen! <BR/><BR/>Though it is unlikely to reduce the behavior, and will probably produce only more hostile jeering from the offenders, this piece may, as you say, help me understand these folks a little better. It is often difficult to feel any love or compassion for those who would rather attack me than greet me in Christian love. I will try to keep Dr. Gritter's words in mind as I encounter the undercurrent of hostility emanating from certain corners of the blogosphere. And I also must remember to pray for these folks, rather than return anger with anger.<BR/><BR/>This is a timely reminder -- thank you for sharing it.Suzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529580138314011952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-16785030099177801462008-05-06T08:43:00.000-04:002008-05-06T08:43:00.000-04:00You know, the first thing that comes to mind when ...You know, the first thing that comes to mind when I see taunting, jeering behavior is that I wonder "what is it you really fear? What is so scary inside of you that you have a need to take someone else down to lift yourself up?"<BR/><BR/>In the case of these religious bigots I often think, "What is it that is so messed up in you that you need the authority of a 'authoritative mumzer God' to rule everyone's life, including your own? What is it that is so broken in your own self that behaving like God's toady deludes you into feeling righteous?"<BR/><BR/>There's just really really something wrong there. I have never seen how someone else's same sex attraction can possibly affect my straightness. I fail to see how Leviticus can be used like a sledgehammer on this issue when no one gives a hoot the world runs around in cotton-poly blend, two fibers woven together.<BR/><BR/>Jesus was incredibly mute on this topic, which tells me he didn't give a rip. Paul was the guy who railed on it in the NT, and well...Paul had a lot of issues.<BR/><BR/>I understand the feelings of the jeerers to a small degree. When I am afraid, I "bluster". I growl and snarl and try to just be so incredibly disagreeable that people will just go away and leave me alone in my own pain. But that is because of my own feelings of not being loved enough at the moment, when you get right down to it. These folks need to address the motes in their own eyes in a big way.Kirkepiscatoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651684515435040529noreply@blogger.com