tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post116550886635640904..comments2024-02-10T08:35:39.336-05:00Comments on Telling Secrets: That Jesus: What a man!Elizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-1165610501417917472006-12-08T15:41:00.000-05:002006-12-08T15:41:00.000-05:00"She was a little bit leery of it, as we have an i...<I>"She was a little bit leery of it, as we have an infant," he reports.<BR/>"She said, 'I need your help around here.' " Miller, 26, refuses to yield: "I am supposed to be the leader of the<BR/>family."</I><BR/><BR/>There is just so much <I>wrong</I> with that. How does "being the leader" mean "getting to be as selfish as you like"?marnanelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08335477330828148496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-1165595165337913192006-12-08T11:26:00.000-05:002006-12-08T11:26:00.000-05:00The Seattle Times profiled Mark Driscoll, another ...The Seattle Times profiled Mark Driscoll, another pastor with a simiar theology to Brad Stine. I reposted the article on my blog, weiwentg.blogspot.com. like the article posted by Rev Elizabeth, I think it speaks for itself.Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17851789276439393822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-1165582349842799332006-12-08T07:52:00.000-05:002006-12-08T07:52:00.000-05:00Thank you, Elizabeth, for doing your duty to help ...Thank you, Elizabeth, for doing your duty to help me stay away from all those delicious empty-calorie treats that are starting to fill up the kitchen. <BR/><BR/>Recently a local church of some kind has been airing radio advertisements along this vein. The pastor dons a rather unconvincing cowboy accent and concludes the spot by saying, "And we won't make you hug anyone." <BR/><BR/>Gag ....Mike in Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12324396563818549026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-1165541344576816022006-12-07T20:29:00.000-05:002006-12-07T20:29:00.000-05:00A few thoughts come to mind when I read this...Fir...A few thoughts come to mind when I read this...<BR/><BR/>First of all: dateline - Nashville... As one who has some experience with that city, I can't say that I'm terribly suprised.<BR/><BR/>But as I read this, I'm betting that these men think that they're really up to something entirely new. Unfortunately, men have attempted to "masculinize" Christianity basically since there was a Christianity. We all know that women played important roles in the earliest days of church history, particularly in their founding and supporting "house churches". It wasn't until the church became an institution that women were asked to politely wait on the margins so the men could make the church into a political and military machine. But what really frightens me about this is when we look at 19th-20th century American church history. In the late 19th century the men who were ministers began to notice that they were among the only men in the buildings. They attempted to "masculinize" the church and it played a role in bringing about the great fundamentalist movement of the 1920s. Now that I see the church on the cusp of a new fundamentalist movement I'm frightened to see the way things are lining up.<BR/><BR/>One final thought - for all you folks who enjoy useless information - that effeminate Jesus that the article speaks about... I would assume that it is in reference to Warner Sallman's "Head of Christ" that has, in its various forms, become the primary icon of protestant evangelical Christianity. That "not man enough" Jesus was the result of Sallman as a young Bible student who was given, by his Dean, the task of conceptualizing a more "manly" image of Jesus.Jon M. Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03827263102842339467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-1165538618113563562006-12-07T19:43:00.000-05:002006-12-07T19:43:00.000-05:00This guy is a moron. Men do not need to be boorish...This guy is a moron. Men do not need to be boorish to affirm their masculinity. We do not need to be 'man of the house' at the expense of our wives. That stuff is, dare I say it, bullshit.<BR/><BR/>That having been said, I would like to see Christian men reclaim their masculinity in a way that is affirming of the rest of creation. Stine does raise one good point: Jesus did curse people out and he did trash the temple, when the situation called for it. Although the meek shall inherit the Earth, Christians, men and women alike, must never be too meek if the truth needs to be spoken.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps transgendered men can teach us a bit here :)Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17851789276439393822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-1165534133581749592006-12-07T18:28:00.000-05:002006-12-07T18:28:00.000-05:00More 'muscular Christianity' -- just what we need....More 'muscular Christianity' -- just what we need. Ugh. I have lost my appetite. LeeCaminantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16610142955176992982noreply@blogger.com