tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post1310668209999629202..comments2024-02-10T08:35:39.336-05:00Comments on Telling Secrets: Wild AirElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-73004550377880382312009-03-31T16:48:00.000-04:002009-03-31T16:48:00.000-04:00So much here....wow.I need to know to whom I need ...So much here....wow.<BR/><BR/>I need to know to whom I need to write to PROTEST the elimination on the CSW? <BR/><BR/>thanks.Mary Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02970052534402740820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-68878483694439506632009-03-28T23:12:00.000-04:002009-03-28T23:12:00.000-04:00When you're right, you're right JCF. I had Matthe...When you're right, you're right JCF. I had Matthew and Mark mixed up, but I haven't seen the Ox for Luke. Only the Lamb. Hmmm . . .Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-18192569327998801802009-03-28T22:58:00.000-04:002009-03-28T22:58:00.000-04:00The symbol for the Incarnation in St. John's gospe...<I>The symbol for the Incarnation in St. John's gospel has always been the Eagle for this very reason. (St. Luke is the Lamb of God; St. Mark is the Divine Messenger (Angel) of God; St. Matthew is the Lion (Truth) of God).</I><BR/><BR/>(Since we're being anal! ;-p)<BR/><BR/>In the the symbolism <I>I'm</I> familiar with St. John is the Eagle, St. Matthew is the Man/Angel, St. Mark is the Lion, and St. Luke is the Ox. [I'm sure Wiki can explain why ;-/]<BR/><BR/>***<BR/><BR/>I always catch my breath, when I see a hawk, also (Heck, I even enjoy seeing a buzzard soaring overhead! :-))<BR/><BR/>***<BR/><BR/>Elizabeth, will GC take up this subject, re Committee on the Status of Women?JCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516376500318551838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-61730639949431822482009-03-28T22:50:00.000-04:002009-03-28T22:50:00.000-04:00I have no doubt, Kirke, I have no doubt.I have no doubt, Kirke, I have no doubt.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-90032554134761975372009-03-28T16:47:00.000-04:002009-03-28T16:47:00.000-04:00Well, you know I pay a lot of attention to the var...Well, you know I pay a lot of attention to the various native<BR/>American interpretations of animals. Hawk and Owl are frequent visitors at my place, and their appearance never seems "random." I doubt Hawk was a random occurrence in your life.<BR/><BR/>I remember a time at the corner of the local grocery store and the highway, one time, a dove came and sat on my side view mirror while stopped at the traffic light...and just sat and sat and cocked her head and looked at me for like 20 seconds.<BR/><BR/>It totally freaked me out b/c a couple hours before I had dealt with a fairly messy situation where for some reason I had not lost my temper, although it was a situation where normally I would. Now I know that dove was "rewarding" me!Kirkepiscatoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651684515435040529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-69460637698625513792009-03-28T13:31:00.000-04:002009-03-28T13:31:00.000-04:00Actor Dennis Haysbert of the Allstate ads played t...Actor Dennis Haysbert of the Allstate ads played the first black president of the US in seasons' 1-3 on the show "24" which is now up to season 7. His character, David Palmer was assassinated in episode 1 of season 4 after he had decided not to run for a second term. Somewhere along the way, the actor who played Palmer's brother became president for a season. Don't ask me to keep the seasons straight anymore, as they kind of run together by now. (I'm into "24', Elizabeth was a die hard "Soprano's" fan.)Anyway, Dennis Haysbert is still<BR/> doing ads for Allstate, which is one of the sponsors of "24." Shouldn't that be a conflict of interest?<BR/><BR/>lolVTcronehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10741867296724712013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-71537129874271215442009-03-28T10:40:00.000-04:002009-03-28T10:40:00.000-04:00Okay, so here's some 'anal' commin' right backatch...Okay, so here's some 'anal' commin' right backatcha. I admit that I don't watch a lot of commercial TV, but it seems to me that, at least here in the NE Corridor, this commercial is getting LOTS of air time of late. Just my perception. Not necessarily the truth. I jus' calls it the way I sees it.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-79383619235657447972009-03-28T08:36:00.000-04:002009-03-28T08:36:00.000-04:00Don't mean to be anal about this...But yeah, I'll ...Don't mean to be anal about this...<BR/><BR/>But yeah, I'll be just that.<BR/><BR/>Dennis Haysbert has been the consistent spokesman for Allstate straight through. He's been a great success story for the corporation. Sometimes he's front and center in the spot, sometimes he comes in just at the end. But he's been there consistently for at least four years.<BR/><BR/>(I'm a media commentator in my other life so this is a particular bone in my throat. Thanks for your forebearanc, lol)EYouthWNYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07826033603475277668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-83528152395745956622009-03-27T21:46:00.000-04:002009-03-27T21:46:00.000-04:00I thank you Elizabeth. Yet, in the Lakota traditio...I thank you Elizabeth. <BR/><BR/>Yet, in the Lakota tradition specifically, the Owl is also the one who tells you of death.... and being given the Owl feather meant I had a strong gift/responsibility to help people transition.... which is always something I do with trepidation.<BR/><BR/>my word thingy is grati --which is always what I feel when I visit you here. Blessings.it's margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577280471100732619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-60685778673388686932009-03-27T20:40:00.000-04:002009-03-27T20:40:00.000-04:00Lucky both of you. Hmmm ... OWL. Still got my bo...Lucky both of you. Hmmm ... OWL. Still got my book out. Let me reach for it. Owl medicine is associated with clairvoyance and magic. Owls are night hunters. An Owl feather is silent. You can not hear Owl when it flies. Owl is a symbol for wisdom because Owl can see that which others cannot. Where others are deceived, Owl sees and knows what is there. <BR/><BR/>I suspect what the Lakota saw in you was someone who can not be deceived. They didn't want you to take your insights and abilities for granted. It's a gift you have been given and I suspect they wanted to honor it with the gift of the Owl feather. <BR/><BR/>But then again, we knew that about you, Margaret.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-17786820866329133292009-03-27T20:29:00.000-04:002009-03-27T20:29:00.000-04:00I LOVE NOOMA. We did "Flame" two weeks ago and "B...I LOVE NOOMA. We did "Flame" two weeks ago and "Breathe" last week - both were followed by GREAT discussions. Just haven't had time to blog on them. Shekinah has been pulling me in other directions.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-53519082821871567862009-03-27T20:27:00.000-04:002009-03-27T20:27:00.000-04:00Yes Elizabeth, I am blessed to partner in ministry...Yes Elizabeth, I am blessed to partner in ministry with Malinda! She is wonderful, creative and GREAT.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the notes on the Eagle. Very inspiring--and challenging.<BR/><BR/>Actually, at Lakota ceremony I was given an owl feather, a complicated gift... meant as a compliment and empowerment to use certain gifts they saw in me.... So, the eagle is a welcome relief!it's margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577280471100732619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-64323990814678930402009-03-27T20:09:00.000-04:002009-03-27T20:09:00.000-04:00Yes, happily in ministry - she is who put me on to...Yes, happily in ministry - she is who put me on to your blog when your NOOMA lenten program was getting started - btw, how is that going?Malindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07532757911962833694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-56789600769593931492009-03-27T20:05:00.000-04:002009-03-27T20:05:00.000-04:00Ah, so Malinda and it's Margaret are connected, ye...Ah, so Malinda and it's Margaret are connected, yes?Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-60797328799176039472009-03-27T20:01:00.000-04:002009-03-27T20:01:00.000-04:00Thank you for the interpretation of the eagle - I'...Thank you for the interpretation of the eagle - I'm just about jumping out of my skin, first and practically because I have to teach from John on Sunday but more importantly because it's my church where the eagle seems to have landed. Yes!Malindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07532757911962833694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-68982836036474944592009-03-27T17:01:00.000-04:002009-03-27T17:01:00.000-04:00Eagles. Ah, now my Native American friends would ...Eagles. Ah, now my Native American friends would say that your church is getting 'big medicine'. <BR/><BR/>Eagle is thought to have the power of the Great Spirit, through a connection to the Divine. The Eagle has the ability to live in the realm of the Spirit and yet stay connected and balanced within the real of the earth. <BR/><BR/>The symbol for the Incarnation in St. John's gospel has always been the Eagle for this very reason. (St. Luke is the Lamb of God; St. Mark is the Divine Messenger (Angel) of God; St. Matthew is the Lion (Truth) of God). <BR/><BR/>Eagle feathers have always been considered the most sacred healing tool by the First People. <BR/><BR/>One last note: the presence of the Eagle is a reminder to take heart and gather your courage for the universe will soon be presenting you with an opportunity to soar above the mundane. You are being challenged to broaden your sense of self beyond what is seen at the horizon. <BR/><BR/>Well, that's what my wee book says, anyway.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-27658906420926983782009-03-27T15:22:00.000-04:002009-03-27T15:22:00.000-04:00PS; we see hawks here all the time, mostly big so...PS; we see hawks here all the time, mostly big soaring red-tails over the canyons with that "Screeeee!" sound that HOllywood uses on film for eagles (it's not, it's a red tailed buteo). <BR/><BR/>But occasionally one of the smaller hawks, a red-shouldered, maybe, or a Cooper's Hawk, will settle into a tree where we can see her in all her fierceness, and it's hard not to hold your breath at this visitor from the realm of sky. <BR/> <BR/>ITIThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-22238168407120249082009-03-27T15:19:00.000-04:002009-03-27T15:19:00.000-04:00Huh. I too have felt on edge a lot lately, and ha...Huh. I too have felt on edge a lot lately, and haven't considered the backlash effect you mention as a woman, but certainly as a gay person. But I think you are right; the old forces of white patriarchy are uneasy, and hitting back against the women, and of course, that old standby, the queers, gives them some relief as we lurch on into the dusk. <BR/><BR/>Tired of it. And of them.IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-85891110085943371152009-03-27T15:06:00.000-04:002009-03-27T15:06:00.000-04:00Okay, now my hair is standing on end. There has be...Okay, now my hair is standing on end. There has been a shift, but I am not sure it is a "bad" one--just that there is dynamic change.... and folks are re-acting in fear.<BR/><BR/>(There has been an eagle perching on top of the cross on the tippy-top of our church steeple.... and I thought it was just for the squirrels and pigeons! Does your folklore book say anything about eagles?)it's margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577280471100732619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-50386718593833164092009-03-27T13:56:00.000-04:002009-03-27T13:56:00.000-04:00Thanks, Katie. We all need to be more aware and t...Thanks, Katie. We all need to be more aware and to be more in touch with our own intuition.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-21395552729434459672009-03-27T13:40:00.000-04:002009-03-27T13:40:00.000-04:00That poem was so gorgeous, TS (telling secrets), I...That poem was so gorgeous, TS (telling secrets), I really loved it. <BR/><BR/>What I adored the most about this post, my dear, is that I wasn't aware of the shift. There is something in the air, no doubt about it. You made some hard hitting excellent points. Better to be awake and aware than asleep.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for sharing. <BR/><BR/>You're such a beautiful writer.Katie Schwartzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00502953107364624296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-52998315783264380222009-03-27T13:21:00.000-04:002009-03-27T13:21:00.000-04:00DeanB - There was no avoiding this one. Even a bl...DeanB - There was no avoiding this one. Even a blind person would have heard the noise this one was making.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-50925285698431524992009-03-27T13:19:00.000-04:002009-03-27T13:19:00.000-04:00Thanks, DaYouthGuy. I do remember it from a few y...Thanks, DaYouthGuy. I do remember it from a few years ago, and then it went away for awhile. I don't think it's coincidence that it has resurfaced.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-42246230609817190532009-03-27T10:59:00.000-04:002009-03-27T10:59:00.000-04:00There are more hawks around than most people usual...There are more hawks around than most people usually see. You are correct that it wasn't a coincidence that you saw that one; your awareness of your surroundings was up a notch from usual.DeanBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13314460920173552547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-10887464537719846182009-03-27T10:33:00.000-04:002009-03-27T10:33:00.000-04:00We also need to take care to remember that sometim...We also need to take care to remember that sometimes we just don't notice what's going on around us. And that means things may slip by us.<BR/><BR/>Your mention of "...that there is a Black man in the White House and suddenly, there is a Black Man on TV, assuring us that in times of trouble or disaster, "You're in good hands with Allstate." grabbed my attention. It struck me that the was no coincidence of the sort you thought but I wasn't sure. So I did a little digging.<BR/><BR/>Dennis Haysbert started doing those spots in 2004. USA Today did a story on it in August of that year. <BR/><BR/>Am I denying that the patriarchy needs to unclench its grim grip on power? Not at all, I agree with you completely. I'm just saying that we need to make sure that our vision is clear.<BR/><BR/>Here's the article link:<BR/>http://www.usatoday.com/money/advertising/adtrack/2004-08-15-allstate_x.htmEYouthWNYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07826033603475277668noreply@blogger.com