tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post2097072774654012243..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: Dignity at WorkElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-17446684088243665732014-01-22T21:17:01.598-05:002014-01-22T21:17:01.598-05:00I certainly understand the need for anonymity, but...I certainly understand the need for anonymity, but the irony, of course, is that silence just fuels the abuse of power of that bishop. <br /><br />I wish I could say something hopeful. All I can say, in truth, is that I'm so very sorry. Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-35651224366661506542014-01-22T21:15:15.865-05:002014-01-22T21:15:15.865-05:00Paul - Isn't it amazing how much less drama th...Paul - Isn't it amazing how much less drama there is in the world than in the church - you know, the "sanctuary". Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-16300101213202885092014-01-22T19:00:19.876-05:002014-01-22T19:00:19.876-05:00Excellent discourse on a very real situation. I sp...Excellent discourse on a very real situation. I speak as a priest persecuted by a narcissistic inexperienced bishop with an ambitious agenda of self promotion, intent on destroying the ministry of good priests, especially women. The problem with this is there are no sanctions keeping such bishops in check, and don't they flaunt the power!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-83591288914794314752014-01-22T12:22:12.803-05:002014-01-22T12:22:12.803-05:00Thank you for this discussion. The last congregat...Thank you for this discussion. The last congregation I was with is truly wonderful and supportive. But there have been some tough times before that and the cumulative effect has a lot to do with the reality that I have nothing to with church anymore except reading my friends' blogs. I don't miss it either. Life "in the world" is simpler and happier.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06090720645937634051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-53494604566700988252014-01-20T21:51:33.462-05:002014-01-20T21:51:33.462-05:00Bullying and harassment have no place, no where, n...Bullying and harassment have no place, no where, no how, by no body, anywhere, anytime. Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-8967204936738440642014-01-20T21:28:18.016-05:002014-01-20T21:28:18.016-05:00While I don't know the particulars of the poli...While I don't know the particulars of the politics or institutional systems of the Episcopal Church, I can say that as a public servant, it is not just in the church that bullying and harassment has turned from top down to bottom up. Ask any teacher in a public school. <br /><br />I am glad to read that this issue is being taken seriously and hope that all institutions begin to address it. I just have zero tolerance.8thdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17139355263412766126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-11984934655092129332014-01-20T18:50:16.597-05:002014-01-20T18:50:16.597-05:00Pepper, thank you for that affirmation. I've h...Pepper, thank you for that affirmation. I've had some private emails from clergy thanking me for raising the conversation. I haven't. This conversation has been going on for a long, long time, with some excellent books being written on the subject. Some folks have simply looked the other way and/or said, "Oh, that doesn't happen in OUR church." I think naming it - correctly - as "bullying / harassment" also has helped to break the silence which, of course, only perpetuates the problem. <br /><br />I love your quote. I want the book when it comes out.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-33685643958990902352014-01-20T17:23:51.392-05:002014-01-20T17:23:51.392-05:00Absolutely first rate, Elizabeth. The problem has ...Absolutely first rate, Elizabeth. The problem has been around as long as I've been in the Church (now well over 60 years) and I have seldom seen it addressed honestly. The most common scenario has involved throwing the problem at the bishop who is usually clueless and is looking for a quick, easy solution.<br /><br />"Jesus described for us the reign of God on earth. We settled instead for the kingdom of the Church … and pushed heaven out the door."<br /> – From _The Little Red Book: Sayings of Chairman Pepper_<br /><br />Pepper Martsnoreply@blogger.com