tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post3237495895621902810..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: One person. One vote. Seriously.Elizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-69623363222150885312016-04-19T09:01:33.221-04:002016-04-19T09:01:33.221-04:00Collette - I think that's because we've bo...Collette - I think that's because we've bought the media narrative that we're "angry". Oh, I suspect there are some angry people in America but I don't think we're all angry. Well, perhaps more of us are now, because we've bought into the narrative. It's important to remember that the one group to benefit most from SuperPac and individual political donations is "the media". I'm talking everyone from Fox's Megan Kelley to the arrogant Morning Joe on MSNBC to that sniveling, smart aleck media brat on NBC, Chuck Todd. They are the ones getting "rich and powerful AND famous" from corporate money. It's disgusting. I don't think this is what the Founders envisioned as part of the country they loved and dreamed into being. Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-13608649646816015882016-04-19T08:53:51.027-04:002016-04-19T08:53:51.027-04:008th Day - Good. Just checking. I do believe in the...8th Day - Good. Just checking. I do believe in the two-party system and the right to vote will do anything to support a healthy democracy - even drive elderly GOP members to the polls if they need it. Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-88303623168004499462016-04-19T08:21:34.891-04:002016-04-19T08:21:34.891-04:00No I didn't hear you say that. I wholly suppor...No I didn't hear you say that. I wholly support your argument which is why I switched from just working for one political party to making sure ANYONE who wants to vote can get to the polls, no matter what their affiliation. I was just venting my own frustrations at people's anger and apathy. Sorry for the confusion. <br /><br />8thdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17139355263412766126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-84089915716209962422016-04-19T08:16:02.085-04:002016-04-19T08:16:02.085-04:00Nice. The voice of reason is so seldom expressed ...Nice. The voice of reason is so seldom expressed or heard these days.Colettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13929646037752189809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-38737141365309427042016-04-19T08:09:31.127-04:002016-04-19T08:09:31.127-04:008th Day - I hope you didn't hear me say to vot...8th Day - I hope you didn't hear me say to vote for any one candidate. Just vote. Anger and apathy are exactly the necessary mix for a demagogue to be elected. Driving elderly or disabled folks or folks in fragile health to the polls is the best way to spend election day. Good for you. Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-27286222223344343612016-04-19T08:07:00.025-04:002016-04-19T08:07:00.025-04:00Marthe - "The least horrific option"- so...Marthe - "The least horrific option"- so sad that it's come to that in this country. Although, I felt pretty much the same thing when it was Gore v Bush. Not a huge fan of Gore but all you had to do was look in Dubya's eyes to know the lights were on but no one was home. And, if you looked closer, you could see the strings that were tied to Chenney's puppet sticks. As bad as this is, that was worse. Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-27586625720219722622016-04-19T07:34:16.387-04:002016-04-19T07:34:16.387-04:00I get exasperated with people who 1.) tell me how ...I get exasperated with people who 1.) tell me how to vote in my "best interest" as if they know what my priorities are; 2.) say I have to vote for "x" because "y" can't beat "z" in the general election. However, I say, if "y" gets a lot of votes in the primary, his/her ideas will have a better chance of being included in the party platform; and 3.) people who don't vote but say that if "z" gets elected, they are moving to Canada. I wish they would.<br /><br /><br />I used to be very politically involved but these days I spend election days giving elderly folk rides to the polls, no matter what their party affiliation. It gives me a better political education than anything I read on social media.8thdayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17139355263412766126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-63744136948492029392016-04-18T23:30:28.793-04:002016-04-18T23:30:28.793-04:00Totally. This is a thing we used to call civic dut...Totally. This is a thing we used to call civic duty. For the last few decades "we" have been so focused on defeating the rules of an unfair society that the point of having a society at all has been lost ... little things like a government that actually serves the needs of the people, civil discourse, reasonably peaceful neighborhoods -- much lost to generations more concerned with what they perceive to be individual freedom to do their own thing than the well being of the whole community. Has anyone else noticed that the big subject of movies and TV seems to be some version of apocalypse brought on by aliens or disease or environmental disaster? It's all about a total breakdown of society and the survivors living in brutal conditions dominated by the brutal. This seems to be the only logical outcome of societies unwilling or unable to imagine peace and community, much less work together to achieve either.<br />Any political figure swaggering toward violence, as if that is a good idea, a solution, is a part of that nihilistic defeatism ... and is probably not interested in actually helping anyone but his/herself ... enlightened self-interest demands that "we" not vote for anyone who would cheerfully write us off as unimportant little people of no value in order to meet their own goals. Sadly, there seems to be very little but swagger on offer this political season ... but I will vote for the least horrific option, no matter what.Marthenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-15167847753394089532016-04-18T17:30:48.819-04:002016-04-18T17:30:48.819-04:00 Mine is usually that of one crying in the wildern... Mine is usually that of one crying in the wilderness. How crazy do things have to get for my voice to be the voice of sanity? LOL. Well, then again, this IS a sea of crazy.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-7315823781530328652016-04-18T17:28:56.842-04:002016-04-18T17:28:56.842-04:00Jane - Thank you. Yes, please share. Jane - Thank you. Yes, please share. Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-68863226447823863152016-04-18T17:28:32.048-04:002016-04-18T17:28:32.048-04:00Matthew - points well made and well taken about so...Matthew - points well made and well taken about some reasons people don't vote. Thank you. I hope you heard that my point was made directly at those folks who've been saying they won't vote if their candidate isn't the nominee. Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-92108278417830636652016-04-18T12:05:00.277-04:002016-04-18T12:05:00.277-04:00As usual, a voice of sanity in a sea of crazy. Tha...As usual, a voice of sanity in a sea of crazy. Thank you, Elizabeth! Shelley B. Kesselmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08849641265374522400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-20576240935092010202016-04-18T11:35:50.610-04:002016-04-18T11:35:50.610-04:00Brilliant blog.
It is so easily transferable to ou...Brilliant blog.<br />It is so easily transferable to our South African Situation.<br />Thank you.<br />May I share it, please?<br />Jane MasonAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073254969997433351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-50684637493210123532016-04-18T10:46:18.573-04:002016-04-18T10:46:18.573-04:00I do agree with Donald trump on one point. That w... I do agree with Donald trump on one point. That when the voters go to a primary or a caucus they think they are voting. They think it counts. And then the party has a convention which selects delegates who actually select the nominee and that may be inconsistent with how people voted. I think that's fucked up. I don't know why the primary and caucus process itself cannot determine the nominee. And if no one gets 50% why not a rule that there is a run off election determined by the voters, of the two top vote getters. <br /><br />I will vote and I have always voted, certainly in a general election. But we need to keep vigilant about the fact that sometimes our votes are taken away by much more sinister forces. I have about as much distaste for the rnc dnc convention processes as I do the electoral college which meant al gore didn't become president despite getting more votes. <br /><br />We must vote but we must also point out the areas in which your vote doesn't count. I don't fault people for not voting in a primarily when they can't because they are not registered with a political party. I don't fault people for not participating in a caucus when it's held at a time that conflicts with your religious faith. Our whole system of voting needs an overhaul. I also don't fault people for not voting on Election Day when there are 5 hour lines and they are aged or infirm and the weather is dangerously hot or cold out and they just cannot take it anymore. The people I fault are the people who vote third party in places like Florida and other battleground purple states especially in close election years like 2000. Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12492330118309758048noreply@blogger.com