tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post5283926798905014769..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: Always, sidewaysElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-29978841437502412722010-02-19T12:37:59.530-05:002010-02-19T12:37:59.530-05:00The Cathedral of Hope (now UCC, formerly MCC) in D...The Cathedral of Hope (now UCC, formerly MCC) in Dallas uses the phrase <i>Bless these gifts that they may become for each us a Holy Communion.</i>Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-67056801301716344052010-02-19T09:05:21.761-05:002010-02-19T09:05:21.761-05:00V welcome. While I'm on a roll, it's very...V welcome. While I'm on a roll, it's very beautiful that Jeremy Taylor inserts immediately before the Consecration a translation of the Greek prayer best known in Anglican (I SO hate how the ideologues of the Right have corrupted the word) circles as the hymn <i>"Let all mortal flesh keep silent"</i>.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-6821599987103007142010-02-19T07:50:24.674-05:002010-02-19T07:50:24.674-05:00Thanks, Lapin. For purposes of this essay, I didn...Thanks, Lapin. For purposes of this essay, I didn't want to get into too much historical detail. I love it when the comment section begins to sound like the Adult Forum after the sermon.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-78658740539306356292010-02-18T23:13:59.369-05:002010-02-18T23:13:59.369-05:00The Communion service of Elizabeth's 1559 Pray...The Communion service of Elizabeth's 1559 Prayer Book combined the sentences at the administration of Communion from her brother Edward VI's two Prayer Books of 1549 and 1552, leaving it to the communicant to accept the Real Presence or the view the service as being purely commemorative: <b> The Body of our Lord Jesus Christ, which was given for thee, preserve thy body and soul unto everlasting life. <br /><br />Take and eat this in remembrance that Christ died for thee, and feed on him in thy heart by faith with thanksgiving.</b><br /><br />Checking the text of this, I see that the Society of Archbishop Justus's extensive online compendium of texts of the <a href="http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/" rel="nofollow">Book of Common Prayer</a> now includes the text of Jeremy Taylor's 1658 <a href="http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/Taylor_Communion.htm" rel="nofollow">Office for the Lord's Supper</a>, compiled during Cromwell's Protectorate. Aspects of it are radically different from the traditional Books of Common Prayer. The introduction to the online edition notes that <i>"...it is important as it claims to be strongly influenced by ancient Eastern (Greek) forms, and also the Spanish Mozarabic Rite. Taylor was thus one of the first Anglicans to attempt to look to these ancient forms for renewal of the Liturgy"</i>. To anyone interested in the traditional Anglican liturgy, it is a fascinating document.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-66183112582735139672010-02-18T18:40:59.798-05:002010-02-18T18:40:59.798-05:00Delayed is denied.Delayed is denied.susankayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513759507628166408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-69950809653792239602010-02-18T15:16:23.934-05:002010-02-18T15:16:23.934-05:00Excellent.
Your last few points about who gets t...Excellent. <br /><br />Your last few points about who gets to decide which apologia sticks makes me wonder, rhetorically, of course, whether it'd just be easier to go all the way and grant a little infallibility here and there just to clear things up as well. Which I suppose was you were hinting at with your question about the pope.David Hensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12337652985240550352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-81522437148729463982010-02-18T14:28:24.554-05:002010-02-18T14:28:24.554-05:00The pope! Yes, the pope is the ultimate authority...The pope! Yes, the pope is the ultimate authority. After all, he's infallible!<br /><br />The reality is that no matter what we do or say to bring folks around, there is no way that the Episcopal Church will arrive at justice in practice that will please everyone. As we see here, we can't even please everyone in the progressive wing of the church. For heaven's sake, let's get out of defensive mode and do justice!June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-26974176529016223082010-02-18T11:23:44.119-05:002010-02-18T11:23:44.119-05:00Bless you for this, Elizabeth.
Our theology is t...Bless you for this, Elizabeth. <br /><br />Our theology is the Book of Common Prayer. Full stop. Let's get on with striving for justice and peace and respecting the dignity of EVERY human being.<br /><br />Pax,<br />DoxyWormwood's Doxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882756844690851674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-37262386082409656122010-02-18T11:22:43.089-05:002010-02-18T11:22:43.089-05:00Odd - isn't it that we need "apologia&quo...Odd - isn't it that we need "apologia" for this particular issue but none on things that affect the dominant power group? How about one for circumcision? That is a big topic in the news right now among those of baby making age - to cut or not to cut that is the question. LOLAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.com