tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post5304160762955745126..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: New Transgender Curriculum for ChurchesElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-13283185786666686772010-02-04T07:50:42.138-05:002010-02-04T07:50:42.138-05:00Hey, Rebecca - I am so very sorry for the rejectio...Hey, Rebecca - I am so very sorry for the rejection you have experienced. Some churches have no right to call themselves "The Body of Christ". <br /><br />If you can't find a church that accepts you, start a community of faith on your own. Gather together some of your friends from across the spectrum of gender and sexual orientation and ask them to spend 20 minutes with you every week in prayer. See what happens. Watch what God will do. <br /><br />Know that I will pray for you, Rebecca. And that God loves you beyond your wildest imagination.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-71954040521139604932010-02-04T03:19:46.385-05:002010-02-04T03:19:46.385-05:00i can peak as someone rejected by 2 churches becau...i can peak as someone rejected by 2 churches because i am transgendered and i can say that it has pushed me away form the church and form my father (God) it has made get tot he point where i would rather be outside a churches care and his love than risk being hurt by a church again. <br /><br />I just hope this stops other people going through that because our god is a powerful god , a god of understanding a worker of miracles a god who loves all his children and rejects none, why cant his church be the same.<br /><br />I feel alone at the very time in my life when i need to feel supported and loved by my sisters and brothers yet despite having served the church and god since i was 11 i am now terrified to try going back in a church as rebecca as Me and being that i am now trying to go full time this means im cut of form church. <br /><br />How is the what god wants for any of his kids ?Rebecca Martinhttp://www.rebeccamartin.menoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-71611388437447869102009-02-17T22:53:00.000-05:002009-02-17T22:53:00.000-05:00Sorry, Elizabeth. Thought I was at Susan Russell'...Sorry, Elizabeth. Thought I was at Susan Russell's blog by mistake.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855171851801011788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-5449342381159165892009-02-17T22:51:00.000-05:002009-02-17T22:51:00.000-05:00Elizabeth,Perhaps it is inappropriate for me to po...Elizabeth,<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it is inappropriate for me to post this here, as its for Elizabeth, not Susay, but I do hope Elizabeth that you will post something about the ELCA material on your blog. My parish is considering using this curriculum as part of a study process, so I am intrigued by your comment. Also, I am the one, and the parish is the one that your responders considered in your first First Friday question.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16855171851801011788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-8683910935397878882009-02-17T18:43:00.000-05:002009-02-17T18:43:00.000-05:00Bill, I think you're absolutely right about the s...Bill, I think you're absolutely right about the suffering. This stuff touches the core of who we are as human beings with a gender identity which is shaped and formed more by cultural expectations than our DNA. If it were a simple matter of genetics or biology, it would be easier to address. Cultural biases are much, much more difficult to overcome. <BR/><BR/>As I said, I'll be writing more about this (I don't have to preach this w/e), but I have to spend a bit more time with this curriculum.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-89057490097473360552009-02-17T16:19:00.000-05:002009-02-17T16:19:00.000-05:00Elizabeth Kaeton said... "I don't think I, even I,...Elizabeth Kaeton said... <BR/>"I don't think I, even I, have seriously considered the issues raised by the curriculum."<BR/><BR/>First, thank you for posting this.<BR/><BR/>Second, I believe that Jesus' warned His Disciples that they could expect to suffer should they choose to follow him. There will be suffering but then this is nothing new for those of us fighting for equality in the sex/gender/identity arena.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05623709712119761741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-9771603845684925112009-02-17T14:46:00.000-05:002009-02-17T14:46:00.000-05:00Here's the thing, Mimi, I think trans folk are doi...Here's the thing, Mimi, I think trans folk are doing more in terms of getting us to dismantle sexism than many of our women's organizations because they force us to consider gender roles and stereotyping in deeply profound ways.<BR/><BR/>Which leads me to ask, Muthah, have you really looked at the curriculum? I have a very progressive congregation which would be seriously challenged by it. I don't think I, even I, have seriously considered the issues raised by the curriculum. <BR/><BR/>I'm going to write more about it, but this is the best I can do right now. Off I go, to do my Mother's work.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-29185717822213344272009-02-17T14:09:00.000-05:002009-02-17T14:09:00.000-05:00Thanks, Elizabeth. I need this for my congregatio...Thanks, Elizabeth. I need this for my congregation. We have a woman in the parish who is married to a trans. We are also looking at the whole issue of Human Sexuality in the light of the theological doccument from the ELCA. I am afraid the parish is farther along than the document, but it is good that the whole church is forced to discuss the topic.Muthah+https://www.blogger.com/profile/10589837671378205837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-63131854900964540712009-02-17T13:56:00.000-05:002009-02-17T13:56:00.000-05:00Elizabeth, I'm glad to see this post, because the ...Elizabeth, I'm glad to see this post, because the transgendered folks are, in many ways, the forgotten ones.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.com