tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post5860314756746576768..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: The Problem With MediocrityElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-38783614178613323382007-10-01T16:19:00.000-04:002007-10-01T16:19:00.000-04:00My colleague Bruce sent this link to me. Thank you...My colleague Bruce sent this link to me. Thank you. <BR/><BR/>I’ve been struggling with the bishops’ statement as well. I completely understand the need for consensus and the desire for unity as a partial reflection of the Kingdom. I get it. And I’m unhappy. You put your finger on it well, I think. Mediocrity. This is not what Jesus called us to—and by us I mean Christians. We are to be the leaven in the lump. That doesn’t mean flamboyant and in-your-face but it does mean to be different, separate, savor. How do we create a community where that leaven is desired?pastoralicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13259693514911954338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-57932443002793138372007-10-01T15:33:00.000-04:002007-10-01T15:33:00.000-04:00I am inclined to think that the Church should allo...I am inclined to think that the Church should allow gay people membership in the Church. In my conscience, I believe Jesus would have done the same. His ministry is for those in need. I hold faith in transformation.<BR/><BR/>If we do not help, who will? Why are God's people denying these people? I cannot identify with this purpose.<BR/><BR/>Though I might not be of age or wisdom, I hold steadfast the word of God. I hold faith in the truth of design and the virtue of love.<BR/><BR/>Love, GeorgeGeorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16287076944738998631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-23036262250303136102007-10-01T09:10:00.000-04:002007-10-01T09:10:00.000-04:00We don’t seem to learn from history, appeasement d...We don’t seem to learn from history, appeasement doesn’t work. Putting off the hard and messy work just prolongs the suffering and in the end, you still have a problem.<BR/>Look at the words from the “Peace in our Time<BR/>Speech given in Defense of the Munich Agreement, 1938 Neville Chamberlain”<BR/><BR/>“. . . .What we had to consider was the method, the conditions and the time of the transfer of the territory. The second point to remember is that time was one of the essential factors. All the elements were present on the spot for the outbreak of a conflict which might have precipitated the catastrophe. We had populations inflamed to a high degree; we had extremists on both sides ready to work up and provoke incidents; we had considerable quantities of arms which were by no means confined to regularly organised forces. Therefore, it was essential that we should quickly reach a conclusion, so that this painful and difficult operation of transfer might be carried out at the earliest possible moment and concluded as soon as was consistent, with orderly procedure, in order that we might avoid the possibility of something that might have rendered all our attempts at peaceful solution useless. .”<BR/><BR/>So exactly what did Chamberlain’s appeasement do?<BR/>Did it help Czechoslovakia ? Apparently not.<BR/>Did it stop the march of Nazi Germany? Apparently not.<BR/>Did waiting help the Jews or Gays or Gypsies? Definitely not.<BR/><BR/>So what is different in September 2007 that will change in 2009. Not a whole lot.<BR/>We will still have Gay men and women being denied full membership in the Anglican Communion<BR/>We will still have same sex partnerships that will be denied marriage and blessings. <BR/>We will still have conservative and liberal factions who will disagree.<BR/><BR/>The only thing that will change is that the earth will be warmer and the governments will deny it. But that’s another issue.<BR/><BR/>So we are telling our GLBT brothers and sisters to wait because we can’t seem to find the courage to do what is right. I think that if “Profiles In Courage” were updated, we would not find reference to the Anglican Bishops.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05623709712119761741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-74207067323247496952007-09-30T20:17:00.000-04:002007-09-30T20:17:00.000-04:00i read again the letter from the birmingham jail l...i read again the letter from the birmingham jail last night. it's not the outright bigots that Dr. king called the greatest force of oppression. it's moderates who say wait, who get the oppressed to cooperate in their oppression who are the real problem. it seems to me that the house of bishops are the true force of oppression here. they could grant lgbt people their civil rights, their full inclusion. and they are not doing it. it's never time to for the powerful to change to and let the oppressed off the mat. they don't do it without being challenged. somebody needs to challenge these oppressive bishops, it seems to me. the american bishops are the principle force of oppression. they are the ones denying people their rights. <BR/><BR/>but im just some straight guy, not in the line of fire, looking on and remembering things in the south that sure looked like this.xb bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01535117540376659363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-63603822372832661372007-09-28T14:47:00.000-04:002007-09-28T14:47:00.000-04:00Yep, yep, yep.My fervent prayer is that the cost o...Yep, yep, yep.<BR/><BR/>My fervent prayer is that the cost of mediocrity has become greater than the promise of honesty.<BR/><BR/>Love you.<BR/><BR/>Feel better!SUSAN RUSSELLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-55151105776527086922007-09-28T12:37:00.000-04:002007-09-28T12:37:00.000-04:00The thing that bothers me is being made to feel li...The thing that bothers me is being made to feel like I’m the one causing the problems. How dare I and like minded individuals rock the theological boat and demand equal rights within the church. Now if I would just be quiet for a few years or better yet just go away entirely that would be great. They see us as the cause of all the ills in the church rather than the pre-enlightened bigotry and fundamentalist intransigence that marks the true cause. They are so happy in their narrow minded little canoes and here are we mucking about making all these waves. I think I may be sick.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05623709712119761741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-25580603247201279032007-09-28T11:50:00.000-04:002007-09-28T11:50:00.000-04:00Amen... and thank you for putting all this into wo...Amen... and thank you for putting all this into words. <BR/>LindyLindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04662429826507775390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-63177605783465861802007-09-28T11:06:00.000-04:002007-09-28T11:06:00.000-04:00Mediocrity breeds schism by allowing only the most...Mediocrity breeds schism by allowing only the most radical voices to be heard.PseudoPiskiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12070541512355253553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-14874820041033683652007-09-28T10:58:00.000-04:002007-09-28T10:58:00.000-04:00It's not the mediocrity, but the mendacity that ul...It's not the mediocrity, but the mendacity that ultimately stands behind the mediocrity that I find so frustrating.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10400109177404296836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-17681998863979098842007-09-28T10:36:00.000-04:002007-09-28T10:36:00.000-04:00No, Elizabeth, that was NOT the flu you had. It w...No, Elizabeth, that was NOT the flu you had. It was the body's response to what the HOB did. I have had a belly ache all weekMuthah+https://www.blogger.com/profile/10589837671378205837noreply@blogger.com