tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post6097497357700120703..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: Washed in the Blood of the LambElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-56895673612066921872012-04-29T21:47:33.832-04:002012-04-29T21:47:33.832-04:00JCF - I'm sure that imagery was helpful at som...JCF - I'm sure that imagery was helpful at some time. I do not find it helpful now.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-90047243387984156762012-04-29T21:46:52.390-04:002012-04-29T21:46:52.390-04:00Maria - You are right - I have not been around she...Maria - You are right - I have not been around sheep. Do you suppose other shepherds treat dead ewes and newborn lambs differently? Yours sounds like a less violent means. Does that mean that others use other, "disgusting" (agreed) methods?<br /><br />By telling the story of what I was told (from a shepherd) about the background imagery of this hymn, I was not trying to relate this to my theology of the role of a shepherd. I wasn't even talking about clergy but all those who work as Servant leaders in the church. <br /><br />I just want to be clear about thatElizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-49612387407453772852012-04-29T21:28:05.372-04:002012-04-29T21:28:05.372-04:00Elizabeth,
First let me say thank you to you and a...Elizabeth,<br />First let me say thank you to you and all the clergy that put up with those of us in the pews. I know it is not easy. I could not do your job. We are grateful even if we do not always show it. <br />Now I say the rest just to help you understand the mistake you have made related to a shepherd's job in the birthing and rearing stage. You stated, "understand that the image is one that is familiar to those who raise sheep. When a sheep does not survive the birth of her little lamb, the shepherd will slit the dead mother's throat and pour the blood over another sheep who is nursing her young so that she will smell like the dead mother and her new little lamb will nurse from the one who isn't her mother." This is not correct at all. I had a flock of 50 Suffolk sheep while growing up. I watched and helped birth many a lamb. Generally, the ewes gave birth on the coldest nights. And it was only on the coldest of these nights with the wind howling that a ewe would have trouble. The lamb might be turned the wrong way or the cord might be around a lamb's neck. This meant I had to get a bucket of hot water, take off my coat in say 20 degrees, wash my arms and hands with soap, and stick my arm up the birth cannal to try and turn the lamb or remove the cord or such. I often had to call my Dad or my Agriculture teacher for help. If a mother did not live, I did not slit her throat (how disgusting!) I merely took the after birth that I had saved from a prior ewe (yes we stored it in the barn or in the freezer), and we wiped the soon to be adoptive ewe's after birth on the new lamb and presented it to the proposed adoptive ewe, if you will. The ewe would smell it and realize it was hers and starting cleaning off the new lamb. This is how we tricked other ewes into taking an orphan lamb. <br />I love your blog. But I do not think you have been around sheep.<br />MariaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-31904483168020527612012-04-29T20:06:36.429-04:002012-04-29T20:06:36.429-04:00There is a fountain filled with blood
Flowing from...<i>There is a fountain filled with blood<br />Flowing from Emmanuel's veins.<br />And sinners plunged beneath that flood<br />Lose all their guilt and stains!</i><br /><br />Just one of many things I learned from my (Baptist) ex, that I can't forget (though I've tried! :-X)JCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-35922179345347526132012-04-29T19:20:03.078-04:002012-04-29T19:20:03.078-04:00I love that change, Brother David. It speaks such ...I love that change, Brother David. It speaks such truth.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-33497309775688800332012-04-29T19:19:25.086-04:002012-04-29T19:19:25.086-04:00RevRob - I think, perhaps, we ought to start talki...RevRob - I think, perhaps, we ought to start talking about this. We need to "come out" about the truth of this.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-38462657131844781472012-04-29T16:43:46.645-04:002012-04-29T16:43:46.645-04:00When I was in the US for seminary, we attended bot...When I was in the US for seminary, we attended both Episcopal and MCC congregations. At MCC we used to sing this hymn, but we would do a switch up at the refrain/chorus. We sang the verses and music to <i>Are you Washed in the Blood of the Lamb</i> with the refrain and music to <i>There is Power in the Blood</i>.<br /><br />There is pow’r, pow’r, wonder-working pow’r<br />In the blood of the Lamb;<br />There is pow’r, pow’r, wonder-working pow’r<br />In the precious blood of the Lamb.Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-35010683271089975302012-04-29T15:41:21.540-04:002012-04-29T15:41:21.540-04:00Thx Elizabeth, I feel you were addressing many of ...Thx Elizabeth, I feel you were addressing many of us who have been injured by the meanness of institutions. I was just talking with a college friend who was in a # of Senior positions as Clergy, Seminary President, leader in church renewal. Now he feels run over & hurt by the church and feels he gave away his life & the return was without reconstitution for him & many others. Another friend who gave his life to the church feels utterly disheartened bec he gave his best efforts to opening the door for women priests & now he feels a virtual war bet genders is under way: men r the opponents for women in the church, he feels, and he dispairs. Under the Lamb, the Lion of Courage, Rev Rrevrobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07659268643519700333noreply@blogger.com