tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post6318117514344492653..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: Bolos do risoElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-17522720220622272862013-03-09T21:06:15.463-05:002013-03-09T21:06:15.463-05:00The tradition of mid-Lent Simnel cakes has survive...The tradition of mid-Lent Simnel cakes has <a href="http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/burysimnelcake.htm" rel="nofollow">survived in my home town</a> from the middle ages, though by the 20th century, the 10,000 attendees (none of them "disorderly") recorded in the linked 1848 news-cutting, were a thing of the past.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-4541076276053112152011-03-28T11:22:57.217-04:002011-03-28T11:22:57.217-04:00Wow, that was a great story. And I learned a few ...Wow, that was a great story. And I learned a few things too. I had no idea about the cake! <br /><br />Captcha: oven sags... because there are so many cakes in it?Lindyhttp://lindysadventureblog.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-62775589030213336462011-03-28T08:05:44.415-04:002011-03-28T08:05:44.415-04:00Susankay - How odd.Susankay - How odd.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-48250041276511424152011-03-28T07:26:51.368-04:002011-03-28T07:26:51.368-04:00I'm RC and I think an argument can be made tha...I'm RC and I think an argument can be made that, objectively speaking, the RC Church is disproportionately focused on when looking at the sex abuse scandal. There was a university study (Johns Hopkins, I think) which found that, proportionally, a child was more likely to be abused by ministers of various churches before they would be abused by a Catholic priest. I think the Southern Baptists were the worst offenders - it certainly wasn't a church you would have thought of. The study also pointed out a far more heartbreaking statistic - a child is more likely to be abused by a man within their own family, before they are likely to be abused by a Catholic priest. Yet if we take the hundreds of newspapers as an accurate barometer, child sexual abuse is a largely RC problem. We certainly don't have the level of exposure of sex abuse within families or, sadly, the same vocal calls for punishment, transparency, justice, action, etc. Why the hell not? Is it just easier to pretend sex abuse is the domain of a few pervert priests, but not of so called wholesome American dads? I despair about this mismatched response. <br /><br />Really interesting blog by the way. Much enjoyed and appreciated.Sallynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-53825781732547336552011-03-27T22:10:39.129-04:002011-03-27T22:10:39.129-04:00Gerry - You can always tell a true former RC - sti...Gerry - You can always tell a true former RC - still competitive about church. LOL.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-85230003018446907342011-03-27T22:01:07.044-04:002011-03-27T22:01:07.044-04:00now I seem to be myself, not my grandmothernow I seem to be myself, not my grandmothersusankayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513759507628166408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-50275784184270064982011-03-27T22:00:14.631-04:002011-03-27T22:00:14.631-04:00xxxxxxsusankayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513759507628166408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-29421094724515787142011-03-27T21:59:05.760-04:002011-03-27T21:59:05.760-04:00I don't know who Frances is -- I signed in as ...I don't know who Frances is -- I signed in as always but I am susankay not Frances (my paternal grandmother -- is something going on here?)Franceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16194142946497685272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-74028926092717461642011-03-27T21:51:36.151-04:002011-03-27T21:51:36.151-04:00Elizabeth... In Church, Only three times a week du...Elizabeth... In Church, Only three times a week during Lent? I attended a primarily Irish American Parish in NE Pennsylvania in the "50s and early "60s. <br /><br />I was also a student for 12 years in the schools associated with the parish. <br /><br />During Lent every student attended the 8:00 AM Mass, M-F. If you were one of the acolytes assigned to serve at the 6:00 or 7:00 AM Mass, you still had to be in the pews with your classmates at 8:00 AM.<br /><br />Everyone attended Stations of the Cross followed by Benediction after the last classes on Friday starting at 4:00 PM. I can remember being in Church either serving or in the pews for as many as 14 or 15 services during a week in Lent, Advent, October and May every year between 1952 and 1965.<br /><br />I remember the Rose Sunday cakes, but never heard them called simnel cakes until 1986 when we attended an Episcopal Service in Huntington, PA.gerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16196788499920350732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-40329547176529464372011-03-27T19:47:04.436-04:002011-03-27T19:47:04.436-04:00Frances - I'm so glad St. Thomas, NM is giving...Frances - I'm so glad St. Thomas, NM is giving this tradition a whirl. After the second year, as is the tradition of The Episcopal Church, it will become a tradition that no one dares break. By the third year, everyone will say, "Oh, we've ALWAYS done it here." And, a whole legend will begin to arise. <br /><br />A mert? I don't know. Let's make up a story and begin a tradition ;~)Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-747454853543245422011-03-27T19:26:35.102-04:002011-03-27T19:26:35.102-04:00New Mexico is obviously "into" Simnel Ca...New Mexico is obviously "into" Simnel Cake -- visited at the Cathedral of St John today and they were promising it for next Sunday. And, yes, Diane -- I can attest that St Thomas is welcoming.<br /><br />wv=try a mert<br /><br />I'll try almost anything but what is a mert?Franceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16194142946497685272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-35801882096647667232011-03-27T08:14:30.755-04:002011-03-27T08:14:30.755-04:00Tom - I meant that in the experience of my church ...Tom - I meant that in the experience of my church context. Many of the boys in MY church were "Father's Boys" and most of those boys, I discovered YEARS later, were molested or raped. One man. Lots of boys. You do read the papers, don't you? You do know that HUNDREDS of boys were molested or raped by a small handful of clerics, right? And yes, I suppose in a church as large as the RC church, the percentage of boys who were raped and the men who raped them is small - but hardly insignificant.<br /><br />I don't know if you're RC, Tom, but this essay wasn't about that. It was a stroll down memory lane, prompted by a date on the calendar and a recipe for cake. <br /><br />Unfortunately, that's one of the memories that will forever pop up when I think of my early days in the church. <br /><br />I'm sorry if the RC church is your church, and you feel a bit defensive. I understand and I'm sorry. I do not mean to tarnish its name. The RCC has done that all by itself. And now, my memories are also tarnished.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-67557903657043892952011-03-27T08:05:47.775-04:002011-03-27T08:05:47.775-04:00DianeNM - YAY. Hospitality is sorely lacking in so...DianeNM - YAY. Hospitality is sorely lacking in so many churches. Let me know how your laughing cake turns out.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-89781337275319878862011-03-27T06:11:15.624-04:002011-03-27T06:11:15.624-04:00"Now that I know what it probably meant for m..."Now that I know what it probably meant for most boys to be "Father's Boys", I weep for them when I think on it."<br /><br />Come on, Reverend. Most boys? No, only a very small minority (although that does not detract from the horrific evil they've suffered, and continue to suffer).<br /><br />It may be a small point to make, but it is only fair to do so given the vast majority of clergy have been unfairly impugned by the conduct of some of their depraved brothers.Tom Ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-48003617869497989842011-03-27T01:41:42.829-04:002011-03-27T01:41:42.829-04:00Inspired to make this cake to share with my St. Th...Inspired to make this cake to share with my St. Thomas (of Canterbury) next Sunday. And, Mimi, visit us...you will be greeted in 1.5 seconds and before you leave wish for 15 minutes of silence. Elizabeth, thanks so much for sharing this wonderful story from your life.DianeNMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10176286459301360490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-21107134089505463422011-03-26T23:07:31.492-04:002011-03-26T23:07:31.492-04:00How interesting that the same cake should bring su...How interesting that the same cake should bring such very different memories. My grandmother was a complicated woman with a simple faith.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-55087965197822868892011-03-26T22:57:56.935-04:002011-03-26T22:57:56.935-04:00Your Simnel Cake looks yummy. I remember the Simn...Your Simnel Cake looks yummy. I remember the Simnel Cake I had at St Thomas Church on Fifth Avenue at their catered coffee hour. I stood alone for a full 15 timed minutes, and no one spoke to me. Finally, I broke the ice and started a conversation with one of the parishioners.<br /><br />Your VaVoa sounds like a wonder, Elizabeth.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.com