tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post7747343852352132013..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: "Only Christ Matters"Elizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-20854233496168038902007-03-23T20:54:00.000-04:002007-03-23T20:54:00.000-04:00Has Peacebang seen that amazing chasuble? ;-)Has Peacebang seen that amazing chasuble? ;-)Jane Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814517077774999407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-60515670735042687842007-03-23T12:24:00.000-04:002007-03-23T12:24:00.000-04:00Very convincing sermon from Rev.Cynthia. I hope to...Very convincing sermon from Rev.<BR/>Cynthia. I hope to meet her. Thanks Rev Elizabeth. <BR/><BR/>I'm glad to learn more about a former Bishop of my church. Being an accidental,female member of the Milwaukee Diocese, region of Rev. DeKoven's Nashotah Seminary; I am very aware of gender sorting issues in the name of Christ. Some current priests perceive themselves to be so inclusive of female clergy that they are offended at the suggestion that they need to learn about God our Mother(*). Of course the bottom line, As DeKoven said, "Only Christ Matters". I would like to add :)as a sorted gender type, sometimes included (*seems some think gender equality is common practice in ECUSA) ,sometimes excluded (confused also,as a child I saw no females at the alter), sometimes told to get over it (*), and sometimes affirmed by fellow female christians, that yes indeed the Bible and Lectionary and Liturgy are written by mostly male hands, hence a permeating male tone presents itself as God<BR/>in our holy texts. Back to my point, Christ Matters Most, Yes.<BR/>When Christ is perceived as one (male) gender,inclusion is not yet accomplished. The hands of Christ are like those that lift the net of inclusion. Not only male hands. The hands of Christ are also, female, crippled, mechanical,<BR/> colored, young, old and not yet seen. While sorting distinctions can lead to premature separation, let's honor the maturing Christ in us all, who perceives that inclusion requires constant letting go of exclusive models<BR/>in order to adopt inclusive models. <BR/>Peace.Deborah Sproulehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01722982660416977832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-29299362743565214412007-03-22T23:35:00.000-04:002007-03-22T23:35:00.000-04:00Elizabeth, I put up a tribute to Thomas De Koven t...Elizabeth, I put up a tribute to Thomas De Koven today, thinking that there is a lesson in his life that is helpful to us today.<BR/><BR/>Then I came over here and read Cynthia Hallas' lovely sermon. I linked to it in an <A HREF="http://thewoundedbird.blogspot.com/2007/03/yesterday-was-feast-day-of-thomas-ken.html" REL="nofollow">update</A> to my post.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.com