tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post8211962872533667179..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: 'Gaybies'? It's complicated.Elizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-9250320193871273012010-01-29T08:24:02.231-05:002010-01-29T08:24:02.231-05:00I know, Mark. I'm not very fond of it, either...I know, Mark. I'm not very fond of it, either.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-78088890391931329722010-01-29T05:43:14.123-05:002010-01-29T05:43:14.123-05:00Wait, that's what "gaybies" is?
I a...Wait, that's what "gaybies" is?<br /><br />I always thought it was the homophobes were afraid of catching.<br /><br />e. g. - <br /><br />"We're taking the kids to get their yearly gaybies vaccinations."<br /><br />"We had to have the dog put down; he'd gone gaybid."MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-89616190374442979992010-01-28T19:55:16.409-05:002010-01-28T19:55:16.409-05:00Mark, I do remember 'gettin' down' wid...Mark, I do remember 'gettin' down' wid y'all in the Kirkland St. courtyard in seminary housing. We set up speakers on both sides of the "U" apartments and we was gettin' our Mo'town on. Hard.<br /><br />We didn't know it then, but those were the good old days.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-72441851537582401682010-01-28T18:59:55.243-05:002010-01-28T18:59:55.243-05:00Hey, I've seen Mother Elizabeth dance and whil...Hey, I've seen Mother Elizabeth dance and while our lives didn't intersect until a year or so later than that scene, I am here to testify that she can shake a leg as effectively as she can a congregation!<br /><br />Bless all those who bless the children of our land with homes and love, especially the Quarter Million kids with same gender parents. That stat is going in a sermon somewhere soon.<br /><br />"We limit not the truth of God to our poor reach of mind ..." (It's in the Hymnal 1982, look it up)Mark Delcuzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09709024117871400692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-28231733347339109832010-01-28T12:28:25.760-05:002010-01-28T12:28:25.760-05:00No, Suzer, it didn't say, but since they are a...No, Suzer, it didn't say, but since they are all lesbian or gay, I suspect the relationship among these four parents is strictly homosexual. OCICBW, but that's my hunch.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-16935284281091780922010-01-28T12:03:58.880-05:002010-01-28T12:03:58.880-05:00I'm not quite sure I understand the quote abou...I'm not quite sure I understand the quote about the four parent situation, but it seems to refer to a polyamorous relationship? <br /><br />If that's true, and without saying yea or nay about polyamory's moral or legal status, how is the four parent situation described really any different from two heterosexual parents who have divorced and remarried other heretosexual spouses? In that situation, there are two biological parents, and two step-parents, all of whom typically have a parenting relationship with the child or children. Most step-parents have enough guardianship rights to, for instance, take a child to the hospital for treatment if necessary. <br /><br />Is it really that much different than the extended families of prior years, before the "nuclear family" became the prevailing definition of family? Grandparents often lived in the same house with parents and children, and helped raise the grandchildren. Some still do, in fact, even if living in a different house. How come our definition of family can accept that (in which some parties are biologically unrelated), but cannot accept other biologically unrelated parenting structures?<br /><br />That said, all children need structure and stability as they grow. Not all of them get it, whether in a "traditional" family structure, or a non-traditional - for example, polyamorous - structure. Our society should be focusing on whether a child is loved, cared for, safe, given appropriate boundaries, educated, etc., rather than who is providing all of that for the child. Of course, those things being difficult to quantify, society focuses instead on the sexual orientation of those involved, or the number of parents in a relationship, etc. The "best interest of the child" is too often overlooked in favor of religious or societal prejudices, I fear.Suzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529580138314011952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-19185287247160282902010-01-28T12:03:43.104-05:002010-01-28T12:03:43.104-05:00I love what you wrote. I am a Christian and a par...I love what you wrote. I am a Christian and a partnered lesbian. I've recently watched the latest season of the HBO series 'Big Love' about a polygamous, Mormon family who are trying to live out their beliefs. They express the belief that they are called by God into the relationships which make up their family as much as they are called into a relationship with God. Now I have plenty of major theological disagreements with Mormonism, but this fictional family's struggle resonates with me in a way that a show like 'The L word' can't (I actually couldn't bear to watch that show after the 1st season). I have to admit that I do believe that I had been 'called' into a relationship with my partner in a similar way that I now experience a 'calling' to the priesthood. Unfortunately I'm living in the middle of one of the most conservative dioceses in the country! Being able to read blogs like yours encourages me greatly-thanks!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00948619127176066155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-55063973946220800982010-01-28T11:03:49.966-05:002010-01-28T11:03:49.966-05:00Why should anyone get to define what a family is? ...Why should anyone get to define what a family is? We know in our hearts who makes up our family - be it via biological connections, or emotional ones.<br /><br />The legal definition of my family would say that my family is a particular set of people who share particular DNA...whatevers. Or which family I marry into. <br /><br />Regardless, *my* definition of who makes up *my* family is radically different, and much broader than the world of legalities would or could ever accept. <br /><br />Quite frankly, same-sex marriages and polygamous marriages don't bother me. The whole concept of same-sex marriage somehow "leading" to polygamous marriage...well, why should that bother me, so long as all the individuals involved are consenting adults participating in their relationships of their own free will?<br /><br />Somehow, I think we destroy the sanctity of both marriage and family by trying to fit either in a box.Geeklethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01102751008887092513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-58668660297822621452010-01-28T11:01:55.276-05:002010-01-28T11:01:55.276-05:00In our parallel universe, 1981 was the spring my c...In our parallel universe, 1981 was the spring my college buddies and I (I was a college senior) went to Mardi Gras. We were in this bar while the band was on break, when the band started back up, we suddenly realized we were in a gay bar.<br /><br />Imagine a half dozen rural NE Missouri/Southern IA college kids in 1981, dumb as dirt, suddenly realizing they are in a gay bar! We were all educating and getting educated that year!Kirkepiscatoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651684515435040529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-63195977145408335152010-01-28T09:30:42.971-05:002010-01-28T09:30:42.971-05:00It was 1981. It wasn't so much that I was a v...It was 1981. It wasn't so much that I was a very pregnant dancing woman, it was that I was a very pregnant dancing woman in a gay bar. I 'troubled' the stereotypes.<br /><br />It was 1981. And, it was a very odd site for a gay bar. Now, not so much.<br /><br />Okay, and I admit that a very pregnant me dancing is a fairly startling image. LOL.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-78097833992784074542010-01-28T09:22:41.576-05:002010-01-28T09:22:41.576-05:00Ok, I am laughing at the image of the looks on peo...Ok, I am laughing at the image of the looks on people's faces of a hugely pregnant you, dancing. I'm wondering if everyone was afraid your water was going to break and you were going to deliver on a cocktail table right then and there!Kirkepiscatoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651684515435040529noreply@blogger.com