tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post2878372816597142635..comments2024-03-23T18:50:32.902-04:00Comments on Telling Secrets: Women Are Never Front- RunnersElizabeth Kaetonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-25795733687446558372008-01-09T20:32:00.000-05:002008-01-09T20:32:00.000-05:00You don't have to like her, personally. You just ...You don't have to like her, personally. You just have to see her potential for leadership, which is great - strike that - ENORMOUS.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I'd love to see Obama win, but I'm thinking that's just not going to be possible.<BR/><BR/>What I'd really love is, at some point in this electoral process, for Hillary and Obama to team up and we'd have the White House locked up for the next 16 years.Elizabeth Kaetonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787552280232329081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-8336056511050217222008-01-09T16:20:00.000-05:002008-01-09T16:20:00.000-05:00I don't get the not trusting Hillary Clinton bit. ...I don't get the not trusting Hillary Clinton bit. I've never been betrayed by her and I don't know that she inherits the sins of her husband. I have heard good liberals snarl that she is a politician -- well, duh. Not too many non-politicians run for president. And none get elected. The closest we have had in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter, probably the nicest President but one who accomplished almost nothing as President and set us up for eight years of Ronnie. I support Hillary because I think she is probably the smartest person running and because she IS politically savy. Great article, by the way.susankayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513759507628166408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-67981321942490078852008-01-09T12:27:00.000-05:002008-01-09T12:27:00.000-05:00Why does this have to become a huge "My oppressed ...Why does this have to become a huge "My oppressed population is better than your oppressed population!" thing? As far as I'm concerned, Obama and Clinton are both upper class people who can afford things such as college degrees, apartments in Washington, DC, and very, very expensive political campaigns. <BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, I'm working two jobs because the well-paying one is temporary and the poorly-paying, physically punishing, and all around craptacular job actually gives me health insurance, a luxury I haven't had in six years. And even with two jobs, I've defaulted on my student loans. I'm watching my parents take care of my grandparents and worrying that in a very short while, I'll have to take care of my folks and I'm in nowhere near the stable financial place from which my folks support my grand'rents.<BR/><BR/>White, black, purple, male, female, alien-- I don't give a damn what my President looks like. I need someone who will finally stop tap-dancing and give me answers with meaning.Mary Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05028846680820907011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-23763587891398663402008-01-09T12:07:00.000-05:002008-01-09T12:07:00.000-05:00friar john says what I think. To suggest that if ...friar john says what I think. To suggest that if we don't support Sen. Clinton, we're misogynist is a Catch 22 and makes support Sen. Clinton or not a rather coercive suggestion. This is the kind of pc identity politicking that turns me off, and I suspect it turns many X'ers and Y'ers off. I want to be known by the content of my character and my qualifications, decidely conservative notions,and not hired or sought only because I'm gay. Yes, there is sexism, racism, heterosexism, classism to address, but to suggest that is the only reason one might not support a candidate is unjust and unexamined. <BR/><BR/>The suggestion that simply because one is a woman, things will automatically be better and power will not be abused simply isn't true, and certainly has not been the case in my life. It was a liberal, Boomer, clergywoman who made my partner and my life a living hell for three years. Sen. Clinton's been known to snap profanities at staffers and state troopers, for example. We need to get past the romanticizing of women in power as the solution to all our ills. We are all sinners; all of us can abuse authority and power. I have known women in places of authority who do great things, but let's not pretend that simply because a woman is in power that all will always be well. <BR/><BR/>Most of all, like friar john, following "Don't ask, Don't tell, Don't Pursue" and DOMA and then Sen. Clinton's stony response to Melissa Etheridge in this regard, I simply do not trust her--she's likely to sell us down the river after the election if the past and her caution is any indication. It's kind of like talking about "crucified places to be".Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10400109177404296836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-13779308968606260262008-01-09T10:26:00.000-05:002008-01-09T10:26:00.000-05:00Amen, Friar John! My distrust of Hillary comes no...Amen, Friar John! My distrust of Hillary comes not from her gender, but from her past actions. It's frustrating to now see folks throwing around misogyny as the reason people don't want to vote for her, when she's given ample reasons for many of us to shy away from her policies.Suzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529580138314011952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-58486310960060098872008-01-09T03:18:00.000-05:002008-01-09T03:18:00.000-05:00And still I'm encouraged just knowing that tonight...And still I'm encouraged just knowing that tonight, in the New Hampshire primary, is the race too close to call between a woman and a black man. And yes, it may make sense that the color barrier is the one easiest to break. Keep in our hearts and believe in our hearts the words of Susan B. Anthony: "Failure is impossible."Janet Detter Margulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05247350850653875480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-85520622737123642322008-01-09T00:05:00.000-05:002008-01-09T00:05:00.000-05:00I have one small problem.I don't like the junior S...I have one small problem.<BR/>I don't like the junior Senator from NY. It's not about her gender as much as it is that I don't trust her, just as I found it hard to trust her husband. I don't like the Clintons, I haven't since "Don't ask, don't tell" institutionalized passive aggressive dishonor. I turned my back on him with DOMA and I wince with the "more of the same" clap trap one hears from her camp now. I resented the "anointed heir" attitude so many of Hilary Clinton supporters have taken.<BR/>What I really resent is that it is often implied, and now Steinem has openly said, that those of us who don't support Clinton do so out of a deep seated misogyny. <BR/>Dose no one notice the catch 22?Frair Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03855036304956508405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29373297.post-45156354944081479562008-01-08T20:41:00.000-05:002008-01-08T20:41:00.000-05:00Of course I would like to see a first woman presid...Of course I would like to see a first woman president. A first lady president just isn't the same.Marthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04335155980634952940noreply@blogger.com